that was before they linked up with bill clinton and jimmy carter. after party sounds like a great time. did we talk about when president obama shook hands with raul castro. i think this is absolutely cool and very unique thing to have four living presidents come together and pause for a moment, even for a few hours to reflect on a man that fought for equality and goodness. i imagine part of the flight was about nelson mandela and man he was. then i imagine what these three families have in common, the clintons and bushes and obamas. they have been elected to a second term in the white house. i imagine -- >> made fun of jimmy carter. >> probably not in front of him. >> didn't quite make the cut. >> i imagine the obama would probably ask, how did you handle the second term, a divided congress and poll numbers take a hit. then at the end of the day, you recognize they are all human kz and probably talk about their dog. they have a dog. i imagine president bush brought a few home made paintings. >> there was some reporting, i don't know if you can confi